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布局动量模拟中的用户定义材料除了ADS中的默认模型外，用户是否可以定义自己的材料？
例如，我在没有原理图的布局中直接设计了一种模块，我想在布局中尝试动量模拟。 这种材料很不寻常。 多层衬底具有频率依赖的介电常数，磁导率和损耗角正切，而这些参数对频率的依赖性不是典型的Svensson / Djordjevic类似的。 查找表比表达式公式更好地提供依赖性。 我希望以下自动模拟可以完成，而我不知道如何实现它：1，在每个频率，我通过DAC组件从外部文件中读出基板定义。 2，将这些定义传递给模拟器。 3，启动布局动量模拟器。 4，将模拟结果输出到每个频率的外部文件。 5，迭代所需的每个频率。 你能告诉我如何实现上述任务吗？ 实例是优选的。 而且，原理图中似乎没有用户AEL扩展的界面。 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 User defined Materials in layout momentum simulation Is it possible for a user to define his own materials besides default model in ADS? For example, I design a kind of module directly in layout without schematic and I want to try momentum simulation in layout. The material is unusual. The multilayered substrate has a frequency dependent permittivity, permeability and loss tangent, while these parameters’ dependency to frequency is not a typical Svensson/Djordjevic similar. The dependency is better to be provided by a lookup table than an expression formula. I hope that the following automatic simulation could by done while I have no idea how to implement it: 1, At each frequency, I read out the substrate definitions from an outside file by DAC component. 2, Transfer these definitions to the simulator. 3, start the layout momentum simulator. 4, Output the simulation result to an outside file at each frequency. 5, iterate each frequency required. Would you please tell me how to implement the above task? Examples are preferred. Moreover, there seems to be no user AEL extensions’ interface as in the schematic. 
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嗨Jademobile，相当有趣....我不得不承认，目前我不知道如何做到这一全自动。 用电路/布局co-sim猜猜它可能是可能的，但我想你必须和键盘FAE谈谈如何在这样的共同模拟中进行材料改变。我期待的一个问题：不确定是否 如果您在此处更改材料参数，则结果将在整个频率范围内“单调”。 解决方法可能是，您检查是否可以使用有限数量的频率区域，并使用重用旧数据选项手动进行模拟。 但是当然你定义的区域越少，你就会越多地遇到上述的延伸，你定义的区域越多，手动工作就会越多......（不确定如果重叠区域会发生什么......）随着排队 模拟甚至可以准备模拟一次然后自动运行所有模拟..不确定这是否真的有帮助，但目前我没有更好的想法..赫尔曼 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Hi Jademobile, Quite interessting.... I have to admit that currently I do not have an idea how to do this one fully automatic. Guess with a circuit/layout co-sim it might be possible, but I guess you would have to talk to a keysight FAE how the material change in such a co-sim can be done .. One problem that I expect: not sure if the results will be "monotonic" over the full frequency range if you change material parameters here. The workaround might really be, that you check if you could use a limited amount of frquency regions and do the simulation manually with the re-use old data option. but of course the less regions you define the more you will run into the prolbem described above, and the more regions you will define the more manual work it will be.. (not sure what happens if you overlap the regions ..) With queing the simulation it might be even possible to prepare the Simulations once and then run all simulations automatically .. Not sure if this really helps, but currently I have no better idea .. Hermann |
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一些可能有用的想法： - EM模型可以有一个名为“Substrate”的特殊变量，允许您切换基板。
- 您可以进行批量模拟，根据列表切换频率和基板名称。 - 你是对的，AEL对EM任务的支持几乎不存在，用户需要实现自己的XML阅读器/写入器。 但幸运的是，* .subst和materials.matdb基板文件是相当简单的文件，具有或多或少的明显语法。 祝你好运！ 以上来自于谷歌翻译 以下为原文 Some ideas that might be useful: - EM Models can have a special variable named "Substrate" that allows you to switch the substrate. - You could do a batch simulation where you switch frequencies and substrate names based on a list. - You are right that AEL support for EM tasks almost doesn't exist, and the user needs to implement his own XML reader/writer. But fortunately, the *.subst and materials.matdb substrate files are rather simple files, with more or less obvious syntax. Good luck! |
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