PicKit 3不可靠

你用什么IDE？所以笔记本电脑的USB电压很低。为PICTIT3（即4.75伏）选择较低的电压设置，或者从不同的电源供电电路。



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What IDE are you using it with?
So Laptops have low USB voltage. chose a lower voltage setting for the PICKit3 (ie 4.75V)
Or Power the circuit from a different power supply.

这根电线有多长？你应该把PK3连接器的总长度保持在8英寸/200毫米的PIC插脚上。



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How long is this wire?
You should keep the total length from the PK3 connector to the pins on your PIC under 8" / 200mm.

您可能会尝试更换USB电缆，或检查其可靠的连续性通过所有四线和盾牌。我发现很多电缆由于不正常的卷曲而有不规则的屏蔽连接，有些甚至没有屏蔽。这肯定像是一个连接问题。在数百个连接周期之后，PICTIT3上的连接器可能会开始失效，有时接触表面会腐蚀或失去弹簧压力。此外，我认为Microchip有一个免费的修复/替换策略，如果您从中购买，但您需要遵循简单的诊断。要求更换前的程序。我损坏了我的ICD2，他们在2天内用一个预付费的托运箱寄给我一个替代品，以恢复损坏的单位。



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You might try replacing the USB cable, or checking it for reliable continuity through all four wires and the shield. I have found many cables that have erratic shield connections due to improper crimps, and some do not even have a shield! It definitely seems like a connection problem. The connector on the PICkit3 will probably start failing after a few hundred connection cycles, and sometimes the contact surfaces can become corroded or lose spring pressure.

Also I think Microchip has a free repair/replace policy if you bought from them, but you need to follow a simple diagnostic procedure before asking for replacement. I damaged my ICD2 and they sent me a replacement in 2 days with a prepaid shipping box to return the damaged unit.

另外，对连接到AC适配器的膝上型计算机非常警惕。许多与地面没有真正的连接。如果你的目标板通过它自己的电源接地，那么它会有很多噪音通过ICSP地线，因为它试图研磨笔记本电脑。



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Also, be very wary of laptop computers connected to an AC adaptor.
Many have no true connection to ground. If your target board is grounded through its own power supply, then there will be a lot of noise through the ICSP ground wire as it tries to ground the laptop PC as well.

也许你可以在你启动的另一个线程上传图像，然后粘贴在这里：或者使用其他地方的图像：http://wwwangou.com…j.5209HTML？RMDS=搜索



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Maybe you can upload the image in the other thread you started, and then paste it here:


Or use an image hosted elsewhere:


http://www.banggood.com/J...5209.html?rmmds=search

我使用的是MPLAB X 3.10，但刚刚升级到3.51。没有变化。当“编程”没有什么，它抱怨我的设备消耗太多的电力和外部电源是必要的。“太多的电流已经绘制在VDD上。请断开电路，检查CLK和数据线，然后再连接。“我有3根不同长度的USB电缆。3个不同的图片（16F8416F1455和12F1822）。没有区别电缆从皮卡到设备是APP 200毫米，我刚刚清洁它使用接触喷雾。我得到一个皮卡2从一个同事，它列出了选择，但与2个红点-这是什么意思？我不能选择它，鼠标悬停显示“不支持”



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I was using MPLAB X 3.10, but just upgraded to 3.51. No change.

When "programming" nothing, it complains that my device consumes too much power and external power is needed.
"Too much current has been drawn on VDD. Please disconnect your circuit, check the CLK and DATA lines for shorts and then reconnect."

I have 3 USB cables in different lenghts. 3 different PICs (16F84, 16F1455 and 12F1822). No difference

My cable from the PicKit to the device is app 200 mm, and I just cleaned it using contact spray.


I got a PicKit 2 from a colleague, and it lists in the selection, but with 2 red dots - what do they mean?
I cannot select it and hovering the mouse shows "not supported"

然后你的设备使用太多的电源。PICIT3具有低电流限制。并且对低USB电压和ICD3更敏感。PICTIT2已经中断多年。当引进16F1S时，它已经停止生产了。我很惊讶MPLabX竟然展示了它。你尝试过外部力量吗？你的目标PCB是什么？你知道有人能测试你的安装吗？它是坏的，你可以请求从Microchip替换。HTTP://www. McCHIP.COM/CISAR/HOM.ASPX



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Then you device uses too much power.
The pickit3 has a low current limitation. And is more sensitive to low USB voltage then the icd3.
The pickit2 has been discontinued for many years. It was out of production when the 16F1s were introduced. I am surprised MPLabX shows it at all.
Did you try with external power?
What is your target pcb?
Do you know someone with a pickit3 that can test you setup?
It it is broken you can request a replacement from microchip.

http://www.microchip.com/cisar/Home.aspx

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Dobrý den, Já mám PICKit3 několik let a bez problémů. Zato s microsoft to je samý problém. Při uspání systém XP profesionál zapomene na zařízení USB. Po nastartování PC automaticky vytáhnu PICKIT3 a dám zpět. Stoprocentně je to chyba XP jiné zařízení se chovají stejně. Dávat programátor vždy do stejného portu. Na stránkách USB.ORG je dokumentace o zařízení USB portu. Lze i požádat USB o větší proud, normálně u notebooku je to 100mA na port. Při návrhu projektu si dejte pozor, aby jste nepřetěžoval piny. Pin asi 20mA. Chip asi 100mA. Proud je dle PIC dokumentace a může se měnit dle typu. Když jsem navrhoval desku, tak jsem se snažil vše dodržovat dle dokumentace.

Hello, I have PICKit3 several years without any problems. But with Microsoft's problem is the same. When Sleep XP Professional forget the USB device. After starting the PC automatically pull PICKIT3 and give back. Definitely it's a mistake XP other devices behave the same. Giving programmer always to the same port. The site is USB.ORG documentation about the device's USB port. You can also ask for more USB current, normally at notebook is a 100 mA per port. When designing the project, be careful that you are overloaded pins. Pin around 20mA. Chip about 100m. The current is according to the PIC documentation and may vary according to the type. When I designed the plate, so I tried to follow everything according to the documentation.

我没有编程，甚至连PicKit的电缆都没有。但如果消耗了太多的力量，那就是消耗太多的力量。



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I am programming nothing, I dont even have a cable attached to PicKit. Still it consumes too much power

If anything consumes too much power it is the PicKit itself

如果你得到的信息没有连接到你的PK3，那么它就被破坏了。试着完成这个过程。HTTP://www. MyCHIP.COM/CISAR/HOME.ASPXMICROCH芯片可能会被替换为免费的，如果它被损坏了。



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If you get that message with nothing connected to your PK3, then it is damaged.
Try going through this procedure. http://www.microchip.com/cisar/Home.aspx
Microchip will probably replace it for free if it is damaged.

跟随链接。最后是RMA。



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Follow the link.
At the end the is an RMA.

感谢我已经做到这一点。同时，我发现了这一点，如何制作PACTIT2工作HTTP://Engig.StasExchange .COM/Quass/93262/MPLABX-PACIT-2-Cudi-NOT-BE-START该工具实际上可以连接到我的板，但MPLAB X（3.1和3.51）仍然列出它不支持（2个红点）什么？他指的是什么意思？）



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Thanks
I have done that.

Meanwhile I found this on how to make PicKit2 work
http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/93262/mplabx-pickit-2-programmer-could-not-be-started

The tool can actually connect to my boards, but MPLAB X (3.1 and 3.51) still lists it as not supported (2 red dots - what do the dots mean?)

用于编程的人：你不能用它来编程PIC。红色用于调试：你不能用它进行电路调试。这是MPLAB8中更好的东西之一，当你选择设备时，你会有一个易于理解的编程/调试工具上的信息面板。



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Hi



Red for programming: You can't program the PIC with it.
Red for debugging: You can't in-circuit debug with it.


This is one of those things that were better in MPLAB8, you got an easy to understand info panel on programming/debugging tools when you choose the device.


Best regards
Jorge

我教一个使用很多PICTIT3程序员的班级。我几乎看到了任何可能出现的问题。我们使用台式电脑，所以USB端口应该有像样的电压水平。如果MPLAB IPE抱怨功率太低，则选择不同的目标电压。在课堂上大多数学生必须选择4.75伏，否则它不会对芯片编程。此外，确保你没有任何IO连接到ICSPDAT和ICSPCK引脚。至于不连接，我看到了皮卡3独立接口，MPLAB IDE 8.92之间的稳定性问题。我已经看到皮卡3损坏固件的程度，我需要重新加载工厂默认固件使用另一个皮卡3，或可压缩，编程微控制器上的实际PACTIT3。到目前为止，MPLABX IPE一直很稳定，我建议不要使用独立的接口和MPLAIDID.992.当前，当连接起来时有什么错误？你用什么芯片和软件？作记号



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I teach a class that uses many Pickit3 programmers. I have seen almost any imaginable problem. We are using desktop PCs so the USB ports should have decent voltage levels. If MPlab IPE complains about power too low, choose a different target voltage. Most students in the class have to select 4.75 volts or it will not program the chip.
Also, make sure that you don't have any IO connected to the ICSPDAT and ICSPCLK pins.
As far as not connecting, I have seen stability problems between the Pickit 3 standalone interface, MPlab IDE 8.92. I have seen Pickit 3 corrupt the firmware to the extent that I needed to reload the factory default firmware using another Pickit 3, or compatable, to program the microcontroller on the actual Pickit3. So far, MPLABX IPE has been so stable that I have advised against using the standalone interface and MPLAB IDE 8.92.
currently, what is the error when you connect it up? What chip, and software are you using?

Mark

至于皮卡3的保修服务，你就走运了。他们可能会修理这个单元，但是他们对PHIKIT3没有相同的技术支持，就像他们对高端工具所做的那样。当你把皮卡3运给他们时，支付修理费，你不妨买一个新的。我们有一袋死了的PIDIT3程序员。修理他们是不可行的。马克



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As far as warranty service for the Pickit 3, you are out of luck. They might repair the unit but they don't have the same level of technical support for the Pickit3 as they did for the higher end tools. By the time you ship the Pickit3 to them, pay the repair costs, you may as well just buy a new one. We have a bag of dead Pickit3 programmers. It wasn't viable to have them repaired.


Mark

如果你想修复你的破皮包，你可以记住，它被设计成一个廉价、低端、入门级的程序员/调试器。它并不像价格ICD3的四倍那么坚固。或十倍的价格真正的冰。



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There are schematics available if you want to fix your bag of broken pickit3's

Remember it was designed to be a cheap, low end, entry level programmer/debugger. It is not as rugged as the four times the price ICD3. Or the ten times the price Real-ICE.

我还没有找到编写PCKIT 2独立接口的简单代码来单独测试编程引脚的时间。您可以选择不同的测试，并验证编程引脚的行为是否正确。这是伟大的麻烦拍摄损坏的皮卡2。遗憾的是，他们没有为皮卡3做任何类似的事情。我已经使用了示意图，但是我发现一些简单的测试软件会使工作变得简单多了。有一天，当我得到时间的时候……谢谢你的建议。马克



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I haven't found the time to write a simple code to test the programming pins individually as the Pckit 2 standalone interface had. You were able to select different tests and verify that the programming pins were behaving properly. It was great for trouble shooting a damaged Pickit 2. Sadly, they didn't work on anything similar for the Pickit 3. I have used the schematics but I found that some simple test software would make the job much easier. One day, when I get the time.............
Thanks for the suggestion.

Mark

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Dobrý den, znovu jsem četl vaši konferenci. A napadlo mě: Pokud jste skladoval PICKit3 ve vlhku mohlo dojít k oxidaci. Doporučuji umejt lihem plošný spoj, nějakým jemným kartáčkem. Já sem stejným způsobem opravil mobil. Pokud to nepomůže, změřte odebírány proud PICKIT3. Bez projektu a potom s projektem. A dejte vědět.
Hello again, I read your conference. And I thought: If you PICKit3 stored in humid conditions could lead to oxidation. I recommend alcohol to wash PCB, some soft brush. I'm the same way cell phone repaired. If that fails, the current measure taken PICKIT3. Without the project, then the project. And let me know.